Bike Lanes: If NYC can do it, Why can’t Long Beach?

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I lived in Manhattan and various parts of NYC in the 1990s to 2007. Never in my life did I think bike riding would happen there. Well it did. There is no excuse why we can’t do something similar in Long Beach.[NYC.gov]

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21 thoughts on “Bike Lanes: If NYC can do it, Why can’t Long Beach?”

  1. How about we don’t need them? The boardwalk, oceanview, and the E/W residential streets are just fine for bikes going the length of Long Beach, without any changes. The Boulevards are quite adequate too. Drivers, however still need to be more respectful of bikes in either circumstance.

  2. Agreed. Bicyclists don’t like riding on Park Avenue because cars don’t like giving a lane to a bicyclists. So the bicyclists ride on the sidewalk, which during the summer months, fill with people.

  3. It’s kinda hard to go to a store or restaurant on the boardwalk. Can’t go to the farmer’s market or the dentist on the boardwalk either. Also can’t go to a bar or work on the boardwalk either. All of those things are on Park Avenue and some of us would like to ride bikes there.

    Just because you don’t want to ride your bike there doesn’t mean that others don’t want to. I don’t want to go ice skating, but I’m not cranky that there’s an ice rink in town.

    Besides, bike lanes — as part of a complete streets program — not only result in safer streets, but increase business revenues (not that LB sees any of that, there is no city sales tax) and decreases speeding.

    https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/americabikes/pages/211/attachments/original/1351785187/2012-10-measuring-the-street.pdf?1351785187

    That NYC DOT study also mentions that when done right, you can decrease speeding but increase throughput.

  4. I admit that I do sometimes ride my bike on Park Ave because cars and make it precarious, especially between Laurelton and Monroe. If lanes on Park Ave would help this I’m all in favor. But where the lanes are really needed are in Island Park, Oceanside and beyond. Riding in LB is great but I often feel “land-locked”. I’d love to be able to ride to Trader Joes or a few other places. Once I rode to Empire Kayak and that was scarier than paddling in a N’orEaster. It would be great to bike to the path along the Wantaugh. But I get as far as Pt Lookout, grab a bite at Fisherman’s Catch or JJ Apples and turn back.

  5. I used to ride my bike all over Queens, including Woodhaven Blvd, Queens Blvd, etc. Its less scary than driving here. Perhaps the wider streets, bus lanes, etc. in Manhattan give more room. Lane here are narrow. (Lido Blvd scary – so is Beech Street West End). Also, we have a lot of stop signs here that they really don’t have in Manhattan. Intersections are much larger and better controlled. We have lots of ditzy drivers here – lets get them under control first.

  6. Its a total failure in NYC, as is Bloomberg’s bike sharing idea. Bike riders are, by far, the most reckless users of the roads in Long Beach. On cell phones, riding with ear buds, not keeping to one side, riding the wrong way, on sidewalks, with friends riding on their handlebars. Why encourage it? You want bike access to the commercial Park Avenue strip? Put in bike stalls all along Kennedy Plaza, ride there, park/lock your bike, and walk from there to where you want to go. If you then ride a bike on Park between National and Monroe – you get a ticket.

  7. I don’t ride my bike on park ave because the street is too dangerous and I don’t take to the sidewalk on my bike because it doesnt belong there and its not fair to the pedestrians.

    There are plenty of side streets. Ride on those and use the Blvds to come up to park ave and walk your bike the last few feet to your destination.

    That being said I do think that bike lanes should be added between national and monroe. It might even cut back on some of the double parking that happens over there.

  8. I take my cruiser across the bridge to the island park station every day. Then I take my failed Bloomberg citibike from there either down to the LES or across town, using those failed bike lanes. I even do this in winter.

    I am guilty of riding my bike on the park ave sidewalk on rare occasion when riding between unsound and the bagel shop. I always feel guilty, but this is outweighed by my fear of losing my legs in a violent bike/car accident. Will take the side streets during high season.

  9. As mentioned before, the side streets are filled with ditzy/texting drivers and stop signs as well and aren’t really a good way to be commuting anywhere in LB. The sides streets don’t need bike lanes but a bike lane the main thoroughfare makes a lot of sense.

  10. You know, you could make the exact same argument about reckless drivers talking on their cell phones, driving recklessly, of course with the added risk of driving a several thousand pound machine capable of seriously injuring or killing others. It’s like arguing that instead of creating safer streets, we should ban all cars because clearly every person who operates one is an idiot.

  11. I’ve ridden to Trader Joe’s in Oceanside and it was an adventure, to say the least.

    I would love to know if creating bike paths to help tourists get to Long Beach would help alleviate the parking issues too.

  12. Enough said? Really? Our streets were designed for cars Allison. That there was no vision to create a system of roads that could encourage and support safe non motorized vehicle transportation is a shame and a challenge for munis as they attempt to retrofit our roads for this purpose. Some of this challenges resulted in recent abject failure. Creating middle islands that serve no real purpose rather than protected dedicated bike lanes to Pt. Lookout is one of those failures in recent memory. Not caterlevering bike lanes onto the Loop Pkwy bridges and the Robert Moses Causeway bridge during recent structural renovations of them was also short sighted in that it could have been part of an east west network that would enable relatively protected bike riding from past the Verrazano to eastern Long Island. Imagine the possibilities for all of us (as well as our tourist industry… B&B bike tripping!). But superimposing bike lanes onto crowded, historically car dominated roads is a great challenge that doesn’t get solved by suggesting that “Street access for automobiles is revocable. Enough said.” Rather, a careful and thoughtful analysis of actual needs of all players would be required. NYC’s system is not particularly effective in eliminating auto congestion, in some cases has had a negative impact on local businesses, and (from my experience) provides a false sense of safety for bikers while created genuine confusion for car drivers(esp. on left turns through bike lanes.) Amsterdam it is not! I think bike lanes can be a win win win for business, bikers and drivers when we drop the doctrinaire attitudes and consider the real impacts on all stakeholders as well as the range of strategies available to address the perceived needs.

  13. Also, if anyone has a problem with cyclists in Long Beach not obeying traffic laws and not riding safely, why not organize a street skills class, like the ones offered by Bike New York? http://www.bikenewyork.org/learn/adults/traffic-skills-101-1/
    http://www.bikenewyork.org/learn/adults/savvy-cyclist/

    Additionally, lots of people who I see riding around Long Beach are kids and teenagers. Creating safer streets and educating drivers and cyclists doesn’t just make things safer for adults.

  14. I’m talking about inherent rights / revocable rights to use the street as individuals, not the overall street use but now that you say it that way, revoking car rights on streets would be pretty friggin utopiawesome.

  15. You’re talking nonsense and you are welcome to your pretentious “pretty friggin’utopiawesome”. As a biker, I have the right to use vehicle roadways and like you, will not give an inch on my right to use the road. I’ll obey laws designed to maintain safety for all by staying to the right, having mirrors, dressing bright, and ceding right of way when it is not mine. As a driver, I respect bikers, recognize I have the killing power, and can easily brake for them as my engine allows me to speed up easily. It’s called inherent decency, awareness of others, and is at the root of all solutions. PS Allison, I’ve done the TA Century ride many times, support their general mission minus its radical fringe.

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