Can you imagine if we had a bike trail that went from Long Beach to Fire Island?

longislandbiketrail2(Map Updated with Meadowbrook path to Eisenhower Park)

Going alone with what is being said in my last bike lane post: I was talking to a fellow blog-reader over at Gentle Brew a few weeks ago about the economic impact a major bike trail system could have for Long Island.

Have Long Beach as the starting hub and it will go all the way up Loop Parkway to Jones Beach and Ocean Parkway and have it end up somewhere in Fire Island. It would be a one of a kind experience for not only residents of Long Beach and Long Island, but for NYC as well.

The Long Beach NY Rising Community Reconstruction Plan, which was just released today, actually has a bike lane planned for Park Avenue (more on this later). 

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There is a trail being made as we speak on Ocean Parkway, but nothing is currently planned for Loop Parkway for us to get there. Lido Boulevard was just poorly redone and, in my opinion, even more dangerous than before. What a missed opportunity for us… Even to just safely ride a bike to Point Lookout would have been great.

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15 thoughts on “Can you imagine if we had a bike trail that went from Long Beach to Fire Island?”

  1. Awesome idea. That would be a great ride.

    Is there enough shoulder on the Loop for that portion of the path? Given the higher speed limit there… would you want some kind of protective barrier?

  2. Yes, well if you look at the bike path on wantagh, they just added a protective fence. the real main obstacle are all the bridges, which would need to be retrofitted with bike lanes. it’s been done before.

  3. Exactly what I was thinking the other day. I love riding my bike on the boardwalk, but it’s a few minutes end to end. I know my GF’s dad bikes down through Bethpage all the way down the parkway to Jones Beach and back a few times a week. The Loop Parkway bridge is the one real obstacle to connecting LB to all of that.

    The one thing I don’t get is why the bike lane isn’t on the other side of the parking? That way motorists and cyclists don’t have to intersect every time someone parks and the bicyclists are protected by the parked cars. The NYC link I posted yesterday has a bunch of examples:

    https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/americabikes/pages/211/attachments/original/1351785187/2012-10-measuring-the-street.pdf?1351785187

  4. The ” improvement” of Lido Blvd was done as a safety measure as well as so called beautification. The lanes were narrowed to slow drivers down which of course has not happened. It’s just the same conditions with narrower lanes.
    It cost a fortune and ,IMHO, was a total waste of money with the exception of some improvement in the traffic lights which could have been done at a fraction of the cost.
    At the time there was a lot of opposition from local residents.

  5. The boulevards need the bike lane treatment first. Simply move the parking 5ft off the curb and you’ll have a parking protected bike lane like here http://www.nyc.gov/html/dot/images/bicyclists/ppw_biking.jpg and http://labikas.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/sf-jfk-12jun25-3247.jpg Figuring out the drainage might be an issue; the current set-up has water flowing in those open brick channels and you certainly can’t have a bike lane half in that.

    Increasing bike traffic on Park Ave might not be the best option; the residential streets aren’t that far out of the way and I have trouble seeing a scenario where riding on a street with 1 travel lane and no double parked cars isn’t the safest option available. Walking my bike half a block to get a cup of coffee at Gentle Brew isn’t going to ruing my life.

    The fact that the Lido Blvd project wasn’t used as an opportunity to replace that tiny sidewalk and build a real multi-use path all the way to Pt. Lookout is shameful. The stretch from Maple to Prescott does not need to be 6 lanes; I bet traffic models would show negligible increase in travel time on the that stretch of road if the sidewalks were extended into both right lanes. I know the medians were done to make left turns safer by forcing them to traffic signaled intersections, but it totally neglects the elephant in the room of street safety issues and that is PEAK vehicle speed.

  6. True CaptO. And once it gets to Captree, the will be no bike route over Robt Moses to create the south shore spine of a bike route/Greenbelt Trail system that would enable all kinds of recreational, transportation and tourism opportunities that LB could have been the nexus of. This has been discussed and promoted by biking clubs for over 20 years. Anthony and others, there is a way west however that is largely bike route and boardwalk that can take you through iconic diverse neighborhoods and ends with some fine NYC skyline vistas past the Verrazano Bridge. Other than some small stretches on fairly tame roads from Rockaway to Reis Park and from Sheepshead Bay to Coney, and then a short stretch on Cropsey bake to the bike path, biking is protected from car traffic. It’s never too late to advocate for a full route east and I’m glad to see young LIers tap into the vision that could open the door to a sea of possibilities.

  7. Yes, you can walk over the smaller bridge from Captree to Fire Island. I used to run over it years ago when I was training for the NY Marathon. Unfortunately, there is no bicycle riding allowed on the road at Robert Moses, about a two mile distance to Field 5. And shortly after Field 5, the hard packed sand roadway gets very very soft riding into Kismet (the first town in F.I. However, once you get past the National Seashore area, it’s a wonderful ride through Kismet, Saltaire, Fair Harbor and Dunewood. It’s absolutely wonderful in the summer. I’d suggest that you park for the day in Field 5 and try it. Stop at the Lighthouse, then go on and have lunch in Fair Harbor.

  8. Just from what I’ve heard. Lido blvd is designated as an evacuation route and I believe that it requires 6 lanes minimum. I’D like to add that I grew up on lido blvd and remember how dangerous it was.Not only did I witness my neighbor’s dog get killed on the Blvd, but I remember the limo taking a newly weds from the sands to JFK getting into N accident with total loss of life. The memorials on fences between regent and green way always stood until another driver drove through one of our neighbor’s fences. Iam not a proponent of the new blvd design, I think it could have been designed better to include pedestrians and cyclists, but I just have to declare that inmy own personal audit o the new blvd, there are far fewer accidents And fatalities now compared to before. The blvd also did a service for evacuating during Sandy, and facilitating the countless dump trucks hauling debris all over the place while evacuated residents drove back home. The trees that have Grass’s growing up to the trunk on park avenues median islands were more of an obstacle because those suppressed trees fell, and blocked traffic compared to the new lido blvd. I hear people complain that it takes them too long to wait at a light, but those people don’t live in the blvd and aren’t conscious that on a weekly basis a motorcyclist was killed from Prescott to Alevard.

    Now that that’s out of the way. The sidewalks are quite small and something should be don’t to support pedestrians and cyclists.

  9. I’ll defer to Joseph on the Lido Blvd discussion regarding safety but still think a few well placed and timed traffic lights could have accomplished diminished traffic accidents caused by speeding and other forms of reckless .
    I would like to know why no bike lanes were installed.
    It seems to me that that would have been the perfect time to do it.

  10. Do you Long Beachers know where this Hoboken guy, and possibly others, could send a letter to encourage a bike/ped path on the Meadowbrook and the Loop Parkways? I want to ride through your town to Jones and beyond… 🙂

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