“Billboards Littering Long Beach” Sticker defaces Garbage Receptacle (updated)

10501783_10152501742532708_832916490629567799_n(Updated with a better photo and location)

One of the new ‘green’ garbage receptacles has been defaced by a sticker that says Billboards Littering Long Beach: City Council pursues a different kind of green in exchange for urban blight. The location of this particular receptacle is over near Starbucks on Park Avenue.

While seabythecity agree with the message, we don’t condone such action. The best way to protest these billboards is with your wallet, talking to the advertisers and telling them why you think billboards are a bad idea for Long Beach or with your voice towards our city. Not by defacing public property. You are actually making the situation even worse.10525894_10203808916481462_6184763698079682875_n

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35 thoughts on ““Billboards Littering Long Beach” Sticker defaces Garbage Receptacle (updated)”

  1. The Sleeping Silent Majority is being awakened. Maybe some of them will get out and actually vote against the scum that’s doing this to OUR town.

  2. $300 a month to advertise and the city does not repeat does not realize a dollar from this. So whose making the real.revenue is the advertising agency approved by the last administration. .and that ladies and gentlemen is a fact not gossip.

  3. Joe, are we still trying to blame things on an administration that was in power six years ago? Get a grip.you can’t blame everything on people in power in 2007..Welcome to the disaster we are in now in 2014 bc of who is in charge NOW and the last six years. I suppose they aren’t responsible for shutting down people speaking at council meetings, my astronomical fees on my tax bills, the raises for the Brookhaven cronies, ignoring our neighborhood civic association concerns, the locals who have no support who are still out after hurricane sandy. Joe if it were up to you, we would hold no one accountable except for the people in charge almost a decade ago but no responsibility for the people now in charge who support ur business in real estate w the over development of LB

  4. The previous Environmental Advisory Board provided this administration with a full report of the initiatives it was working on which included identifying Greencorners as a recycling cannister provider at no cost to the City. However, to truly optimize the City’s recycling efficacy, Greencorners was to be followed by a “We Ride the Green Wave” Pledge campaign that would tackle the challenge of increasing household recycling rates and spreading the word, neighbor to neighbor, about the fiscal sense effective recycling makes along with its environmental benefit. The Pledge campaign would be the second step, after achieving visibility through the Greencorners initiative, to make a real impact on recycling rates. The third stage recommended was a replication of the Town of North Hempstead composting program. Some of the space on those cannisters was to be used to support the pledge campaign and the composting program. While the City was to realize some advertising revenues from the cannisters, the real value would come from from improving our household recycling rates, removing weighty compostables and other recyclables, thereby reducing the tonage of solid waste we pay to transport for incineration (around $90/ton). Ask the City for the report Joe. Aren’t you now serving on the EAB?

  5. I will always my elected leaders of any administration because I too want answers. I recently questioned this line of revenue to create an environmental fund. Hopefully we shall have the answers soon.

  6. The question here is.. Are we becoming to “commercialized”? as a beach town? I grew up visiting the Jersey shore for over 30 years…. now I have been living on this beautiful barrier island for over 16 years. I can see this form of advertising in a large city environment. I think it cheapens the look of “Long Beach”. How far is this form of advertising willing to go? Next will it be large “Billboards”? Large murals of advertising? Neon Vegas style signage? Long Beach needs to establish through there marketing department ( do they have one?) ground rules.. and to reach out to the community in the form of surveys for what the community wants…my 2 cents…

  7. Very good points, Lisa. I personally would rather see the city take a more BID ‘(Business Improvement District) approach. Set some rules on a Long Beach-style, make our downtowns more quaint and ‘downtown-y’. Copy Huntington Village, Patchogue, sayville, Port Jeff or what many downtowns upstate in the hudson valley are are doing – make LB quaint destination that one would want to visit and residents would be proud of. Build up the commercial property and get money from commercial property tax. Not through billboards, which make areas look worse. They definitely cheapen the area.

  8. There’s nothing wrong with the receptacles per se, it’s the tacky photos and messages on them (especially full face real estate ads that were already all over town). It doesn’t help much berating one or another set of elected politicians, and in essence the idea was a good one. We should instead concentrate on the advertisers and make them understand that we want more tasteful, community beautifying ads, Perhaps even ones which support the idea of the bins with a small reference to themselves as a company which support it, which would ultimately help their cause as well. All they do now is provide a quick reference for companies NOT to patronize.

  9. As I remember, there were various styles of recycling cannisters available from Greencorners. This one that was chosen for LB was not the most appropriate one IMO. That said, the composition of some of the ads on them make them particularly tacky. I couldn’t agree with you more Anthony about the downtowns we ought to emulate or the goal of making LB a ” quaint destination that one would want to visit and residents would be proud of”. But the one thing that all those destinations on LI or the Hudson’s, Catskill’s, Saugerties’ have that LB doesn’t is underlying architectural character and cozy two lane Main Streets. Our six lane Park Ave is difficult to make downtowny without major rethinking and cost… not like the West End’s Beech St., which is a wonderful work in progress. I apprecriate Lisa’s concerns and suggestions but wonder what we might find if more comprehensive surveying of public opinion is done… either, significant improvements (with no increase in taxes) or anything that generates revenue( and lowers our taxes)? Also, just two cents. Not two cents, priceless, your ongoing work on this blog Anthony.

  10. large re-cycle pails instead of bins, pick up every 2 weeks …will stop the garbage in our sewers ,or streets ,will save $1000’s in fuel , man hours and will give us a cleaner city

  11. I think the recycling containers were a great idea, its sad that they have to have advertisements all over them. Maybe open them up to LB only business and I like the idea of tasteful ads like endless summer style? Also I saw one in the center median on park ave I think on Magnolia is that really a green corner, is that safe?? Since this conversation went towards commercial/local business I think commercial should be on the boardwalk and that is my opinion. No I don’t want it to look like coney island no I don’t want jersey shore but there is a way to do it and limit it and make sure that it looks good but its ridiculous that you have to go all the way up to park avenue for anything(beech st. in the west end). As far as Long Beach being quaint the fact that we have 75+ high rises we are not quaint we haven’t been quaint in 40 years sorry. Where do people congregate in Long Beach, where do you see people you know walking, running, talking, biking, etc. ON THE BOARDWALK. That’s where the downtown look should be IMO.

  12. How about the roads and the pot holes / sink holes all round town. We are coming up on two years since Sandy and th e roads are only getting worse and these dopes in city hall are not addressing it one bit. But boy have they increased our bond indebtedness!

  13. people need to focus on more important things. The fact that someone took the time and effort to even print these stickers is beyond me. How about we find out who put the sticker on the bin and have them arrested for vandalism?

  14. The problem isn’t just the “billboards”, it’s what they’re advertising: there aren’t enough reasons to stay and spend money here.

    Admittedly, I don’t notice all of them (i don’t think) but the majority seem to be for real-estate agents and City MD. Is this the image LB is looking for? A cool, happenin’ town with with abundant RE listings and a place to go when you get into a hit by a car on your bike?

    Would it be so bad if all these advertisements were pointing to the things going on in the area, as Anthony wrote in another post? Or advertising a trendy spot that’s easy to get to?

    This problem is hardly exclusive to Long Beach – Google Long Island Brain Drain and you’ll read studies pointing to what people 25-35 know intriniscally: Long Island isn’t giving milennials what they want, walkable downtown areas.

    The irony is, LB is just leaving all this money on the table by not doing a better job developing their commerce; because LB has a decent (workable) infrastructure for it, ie. West End. But, many new storefront that opens up ’round here is a drugstore, nail salon, pizza or Subway.

    Though, maybe it’s an improvement from when frozen yogurt shops used to replace failed frozen yogurt shops – I don’t know. But even Smorgasboard is just a repeat of things too inconvenient to get to from the Boardwalk, and not a reason to go to Smorgasboard.

    And the center of town near the train station? That giant awful Waldbaums and a Rite Aid, taking up prime real estate for what could be something cultural and trendy? Gentle Brew is a great coffee shop, but getting there is an issue.

    Ugh..it’s depressing.

    If LB could just commit to organizing and advertising their public transportation – direct, regular transport from the center of town to the West End, maybe come up with some kind of way to entice the “right” kind of businesses to the area by paying their flood insurance, this place could truly boom. Because people WANT to be here – but in doing so, you have to kind of stomach the inconvenience of the whole place. This town should be so easy to connect, and it’s not.

    “I’ve always wanted to try this place in the East End – but I can’t move my car – even if I did, 2 beers and I might get arrested for a DWI…I’d call for a cab, but they said the wait would be an hour…and the last time I waited the hour, they never came…if only I didn’t have to go past so many laundromats and nail salons to get to this place I’ve always wanted to try, I’d be all over that.”

    I lived here for years before going to SUGO which is now one of my favorite restaurants anywhere.

    Sorry for the rant…it’s just a shame that this place could compete with any place in the metro area, and it just can’t make bridge the gap staring everyone in the face. It would be a win for homeowners, homesellers, renters, everyone.

  15. West End Tom is so right. The old Downtown models are failing. They are falling to Internet competition, shopping mall competition and high taxes. The change is striking downtowns across the country.

    But Long Beach has particular problems. It’s mismanaged government gives commercial properties some of the highest taxes in the country. And any business here is geographically isolated, drawing customers from only two directions.

    Lower the taxes and you’ll see a HUGE surge in the trendy mom-and-pop, artistic and crafty shops that we’d love to see. But today, those folks just can’t afford the tax. After all, what business can pay a $2,500 monthly property tax bill on top of its rent bill and survive a winter here in Long Beach?

    This City Council has given us a Department of Economic Opportunity. What has it done other than add to our taxes, employ some Brookhaven hacks and swell the payroll?

    We need help for small business here. And please — not handouts, not block grants, not brick sidewalks. We’ve got to stop spending on silly stuff and let the business owners keep a few more dollars of what they work hard to make.

    Please, please vote in November for the Long Beach you want. It certainly isn’t the one that’s giving us 20-story condos and street-corner billboards.

  16. Yes West End Tom has hit a nail on the head. Why not free local transit on those trolley buses with a valid beach pass for locals and visitors alike? Eddie, $2500/mo property taxes on which businesses? Or do you mean big landlords who rent to multiple businesses? And yes, no one could have imagined advertising that tacky when Greencorners was first researched. This administration’s utilization of Greencorners has been questionable at best. It needn’t have been an addition to the visual blight of non stop real estate advertising. Long Beach needs to end the one party control in NOV, regardless of some of the good work done by this administration since Sandy (and thank you Mr. Schumer too). But please, let’s see some of the fresh smart new blood who contribute to these blogs and local civic groups take on the challenge as independents.

  17. Making Sense, Look up the combined real estate taxes on any stand-alone store-front building. They are usually around $30,000 per year. The City gets perhaps $8,000 of that, double of what they were seven years ago. Another $16K goes to school tax with the rest to the County and State. That’s why storefront rents here start at $2500/month.

    You can find the School and County tax of any building on

    mynassauproperty.com

    The City tax amount is a little more difficult to locate on line. Depending on the time of year and whether they have been paid or not, City tax amounts can be found at

    http://longbeach.municipaltaxpayments.com/

    Both sites can be a little frustrating to navigate, but with effort, they hold lots of information.

  18. I can’t imagine there is sufficient return on investment for the realtors to continue to pay to plaster their faces all over garbage receptacles. Really, if you are in need of a real estate professional would you look on a trash receptacle?

    Both parties start off pledging transparency and working for the citizens and actually do it for the first few months. Then they get too impressed with their own importance and forget they are there to serve all of us.

    I get rather tired of hearing how we have to do things to benefit our local businesses because the summer is the season they make most of their money. That is one of the reasons we aren’t more like Sayville or Patchogue or Huntington. The businesses there are geared to year round customers and seasonal upticks are a bonus.

    What we need is a working, experienced Business Planning Department capable of drawing a wider range of businesses and the power to discourage new business of which there is already a glut.

  19. Sorry Tom but LB offers way more than the average LI town when it comes to walkable downtowns. Our little section between EAB and Lido is not so expansive that I can’t walk to the WE to go to the Inn from the east end. People want to talk about being green but then don’t want to walk.

    As for Waldbaums and RiteAid they would not be there if they were not viable businesses that were thriving. The businesses you see working are the ones the local economy needs. Could we use other more eclectic types, sure! But the people who will open those need to see the potential in the community and population. If they are not coming guess what, they likely see issues? How do we address that? If you have ideas head on down to the city council and set up a meeting with Pattie Bourne our cracker jack head of Economic Development.

    And please no subsidizing of flood insurance, that only encourages “bad behavior” and economic risks that the community will pay for in the future.

  20. @Victor…

    LB offers more than the average LI town? Maybe, I’m not so sure. Were it not for the beach, the west end would resemble the average LI town’s main street. Obviously, I rank it above others, but…

    The West End is a few sports bars, that turn into frat houses at night. It has multiple delis, nail salons, vacant store fronts and at least 3 pizza places. The best BBQ joint anywhere, but the restaurant void was never really filled after the basement wine bar, whos name now escapes me, after Sandy. I really miss that place.

    The anomaly of the West End is actually how difficult the biggest businesses make life for west end residents, ie. people peeing and throwing up on their property, the difficulty of driving at night, maneuvering around drunk people, the noise, etc. – I don’t hear of similar complaints in Huntington and RVC. For me, these were never issues, but it’s clear that for others that live there, it is. This is what it’s offering more than any other LI town?

    I’m not a city planner, and I don’t know how to do it, but there’s other areas out there with a variety of businesses and restaurants that don’t become Animal House at sun down. What makes LB different? Why are the newest businesses carbon copies of ones that are already here (new pharmacy, next to new Subway)?

    Maybe subsidizing flood insurance isn’t the answer, but it’s clear something to lure small businesses in who don’t consider it a wise investment to put their business in the path of another tropical storm. Otherwise, you’re just going to see the corporate chains, with low cost goods and high mark-ups, that can afford the risk in both time and money because losses can just be written off. Gone will be the mom and pop shops that give this place character; in will be more Dunkin Donuts and luxury brands that can weather off-season to sell bags to tourists.

    Waldbaums and RiteAid. As far as thriving, most businesses that take government money (wtc, medicare, medicaid) in areas with “economically diverse” and aging populations do just fine. So we’re probably stuck with it. But let’s face it, that Waldbaum’s is awful – I don’t know any girl in LB that looks forward to going there at night and getting harassed outside. It’s overpriced and people only go there out of convenience. Hopefully King Kullen will be the final nail in that coffin, and something that enriches LB can take its place.

    My desire to see a more connected LB, and I think it might be getting better, isn’t out of a “green initiative” as you assume and put words in my mouth/post, but because parking sucks and 2 drinks can get a person a DWI. I won’t disagree that a walk from the East End to the WE isn’t doable, I run 2-3 marathons a year, so I can handle it, but it is inconvenient and inefficient. “I’m starving – time for a 20 – 30 minute walk.”…”I want to bring my laptop to a coffee shop…just a 20 minute drive…”

    Do you make that walk from the East regularly? How often do you do it in the winter? In order for LB to be successful, you need people living here patronizing the businesses all the time – let’s face it, we’re isolated. I think the local businesses do a lot to give back to locals, but where’s the city’s role? Make it as easy as possible and develop some diversity.

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