“the Wurst has come to an end effective immediately”

Currywurst is the latest to close shop.

Dear Long Beach, a German saying goes like this: "Everything has a end only the sausage has two"And we are sorry to…

Posted by The Currywurst Company on Saturday, September 12, 2015

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32 thoughts on ““the Wurst has come to an end effective immediately””

  1. Maybe if everyone goes out of business it’s a chance to knock it all down and start fresh!

    While that was half kidding, I have zero desire to spend any time in the area around the train. It’s a vile blight of an area with zero appeal and a horrendous parking situation.

  2. Too bad. Ate their once and it was good. You have to know your market and niche restaurants really don’t do well in LB. Probably would have worked well in NYC or even RVC.

  3. @B – idk about niche restaurants not being able to work, but I think something with more regular and mass appeal than sausage is definitely key.

  4. its a part of town that is very queens or city like so it is what it is. we usually only go by bike , and parking isnt an issue if you just go down a side street. Rent is too high in central. landlords are wealthy im sure. never hear them complain. feel bad for businesses there. never understood landlords that would rather have a vacant store than a tenant paying for a lesser price. upstate there was an experiment on this where as the tenants allowed first few months free, in order to vitalise the business and promote both entities staying in funds.

    shame about curry, they were good guys and treated everyone so nicely. best of luck.

  5. This is really sad news. And somewhat surprising to me. I frequented Currywurst pretty often. I’d go for drinks with friends and family and I ordered food from them a bunch of times. There was always people in there when I went in. Sometimes you couldn’t get a seat (which shouldn’t be too surprising in such a small space, but its worth mentioning). I really liked it there and am really sad to see them go. I tried the Bier Garten (sp?) place in East Atlantic Beach when they first opened and the food/beer wasn’t nearly as good.

    I’ve gone to similar German places in Queens and Brooklyn that are always busy too. So I don’t think its a lack of city-interest in the spot…

    Again. Very sad news. And I shouldn’t be surprised when local businesses close…but I’m a bit surprised.

  6. Businesses keep dying in a town that has no Eco Dev plan. maybe the boy wonder should pay his Eco Dev Czar even more of our money to develop, uh, what does she develop anyway?

  7. @InformaTuttle – That’s only part of it. I look at stores that open around here, and I ask myself, “how do they think they’re going to stay in business?” The first time I thought that was in 2008 when a “dollar store” opened up under my, what was then, $1,100 apartment and 3x the size of it – assuming the rent was double mine – did they expect to sell $2,200 items p/month bf turning a profit?

    It closed.


    Having run my own business (successfully), and looking to do that again, I think about these things a lot…

    1) People have unprofitable ideas/low business acumen

    Passion projects come to LB, beachy things – which is awesome – but “how is this going to stay open?” How many people here need a sign with a cat on it that says “the beach is purrfect.” I mean, after you have 12, it gets excessive.

    Covering the fixed costs is priority #1, and they’re expensive. Is that the city’s fault? Partially (taxes, debt, bonding), but not all the blame can be put on them.

    2) Parking/Infrastructure

    I’ll never forget Yoga Palms in the West End – my then girlfriend loved this place, and the girl who owned it was awesome. She went all the time.

    I thought “this place won’t last.”

    There’s no parking in the west end. Being on time to a yoga class is crucial. It closed. I’m sure it’s damage after Sandy didn’t help. It opened just before it.

    100% parking is the city’s fault.

    3) LB Aesthetic…

    Unsustainable wrote recently wrote, “this should be the crown jewel” of Long Island – combine that with Beachguy’s comment once “this looks like Jericho Tpke with a beach.”

    Plus, it’s not easy to get here – are people driving all this way to feel like they’re on Jericho Tpke to get their nails done? To eat at Subway? Have a slice of pizza? (Combine this w/another problem: few exclusive businesses here).

    Partially the city’s fault (reference Anthony’s garbage on Park photos and wake me know when the results and implementation of that garbage pick-up study come in).

    But building owners haven’t developed a nice looking shopping district like Americana Mall or the streets of Great Neck. Is it because they don’t have to, can’t afford to, or are so unsure of the future of LB they can’t decide what they want to invest in?

    4) Economic direction of the city

    “If you build it, they will come.” Eh…

    Is the population growing? If not, that could be a problem for businesses. If it’s getting smaller and wealthier – that’s OK.

    If it’s getting bigger and poorer…look out.

    *Build a hospital – you bring people with spending power. Build a “doc in a box,” you bring a person with spending power who want to live here.

    *Hitch your star to Sustainable Long Island’s wagon – build a nursing home and government housing – both are infuriating.

    *Build a skate-park – the city gets a new lawyer.

    5) Lack of business diversity/exclusivity…

    How many Subways, dunkin donuts, pizza shops, nail salons and banks does one place need? And this is coming from a person w/12 beach-cat signs.

    I put that on the individual owners. In the last 8 years, I’ve seen instances of a a business closing and get replaced by a business that sold identical products replaced – spoiler alert: that closed too.

    (Fro yo shop closed, new fro yo shop opened, new fro yo shop closed)

    I could go on – but I won’t.

    The high costs here and population demographics stop cool and creative things from testing the waters, like a cronut shop or artisan whatever – so the city becomes less of a draw in the off season. No one’s coming here for a slice of pizza and a bank, especially when they can’t find parking, and the residents can only support it on their own for so long.

    No one (who knows what they’re doing) is opening a place exclusive to LB when the city can’t attract customers because there’s no parking and the city isn’t doing anything to make this place more of a destination – of course the residents will fight things that improve the city because they don’t want people to come (w…t…f) – so they stand in our own way of improvements, at times.

  8. It never takes long for some fool here to blame the rich, greedy landlord. But then the fool usually can’t understand why any landlord would rather have an empty store than a rented one.

    Wake up, Fool. I’m a landlord. I have empty stores. And I’m losing money every month.

    The taxes on my 15 x 80 foot store is $3,500 per month, up from $2,000 before Sandy, thanks to the Long Beach Democrats. I have a mortgage too, so I have to pay that along with insurance. Now a new “flood insurance” tax has been required. So add $400/month for that.

    So who can afford to rent this place?

    Why are stores closing? Ask the City Council who continues to expand government, raise salaries, hire more hacks and tax us out of business.

  9. $3,500 p/month?! Seriously – who can afford to rent that place when they have to clear $42,000 in sales annually – before payroll, costs, rent – wow.

  10. Very good work!! The key here s the City’s lack of economic development. Trying to lure BUSINESS here. Not just fro-yo or nail salons. The hospital was a key economic engine, but these nitwits think we are dumb. They think we are jumping for joy because e got an emergency care trailer that employs 15 people. The town needs real businesses that employ people that are here during the day supporting the local businesses year round. This is done by recruiting businesses. Offering incentives to get them here. Instead of offering developers huge tax breaks for buildings that don’t make sense, shouldn’t there have been a conversation about mixed use projects near the boardwalk? Jobs, commerce, investment? Are these words foreign to the nitwits on the Council? If it doesn’t involve a commission, Adelson couldn’t care less. If it isn’t Spanish, Torres doesn’t understand it. Forget the others, they are so useless it isn’t worth mentioning. It starts with competent people. VOTE!!

  11. Bars. And maybe a liquor store. And perhaps a franchise that the franchiser keeps afloat while it sucks some money from the franchisee’s retirement savings. That’s it.

  12. @WET The City could offer a tax break to the right business. The business would have to be offering enough local jobs so as to offset the break. The theory is x amount will relocate to our town and the ones that don’t will spend x amount of dollars locally to support the local economy. Basically, you offer a discount to come here and then you spend $$$ here. That’s how economies grow and thrive. These nitwits wouldn’t know anything about growing an economy without raising our taxes to do it

  13. Mr Tuttle, Pretty free and easy with my earned money there aren’t you… That being said what benefit does the average taxpaying resident get by having more business in our town? What types of businesses would you think the city should choose as the “right” business?

  14. The Long Beach Economic Development Corp. is a sham formed only to offer a Long Beach tax exemption to iStar, while isolating the elected scum from the give-away.

    It will make a few videos for U-Tube and direct a few hundred thousand tax dollars to a few connected hacks, but its true purpose was the iStar giveaway.

  15. I missed the part of why you would rather have it empty. not trying to be a jerk, im just not a landlord and just curious why its better to bring in no money than some.

  16. @CO – youre real estate values would benefit from a vibrant downtown. The tax breaks are usually temporary, a few years. JV already identified his business tax is $42,000 a year – no small chunk of change for a 15x 80 space. Now imagine what having doctors, nurses, engineers, developers, etc. bidding on your home could do to its selling price.

    If you want to talk about youre money and tax breaks – and you should – the amount of religious real estate in LB seems excessive. Might even make an iStar pilot look like a good deal.

  17. @WET – Yes a vibrant downtown would benefit my real estate values, just like the vibrant downtowns of Atlantic Beach, Lido and Point Lookout help their values. Here is a shocker ” doctors, nurses, engineers, developers, etc.” are already bidding on houses down here.

  18. A hospital in Long Beach? This is a beach town that cannot even generate enough business to keep a sausage factory open so let’s open a hospital. Let’s “dream” bigger, maybe an airport, shopping mall, NHL arena, casino, Zen Garden, huntington style theatre. Anything else?

    Until a fact based data driven economic assessment and impact of this city’s needs and capacities is completed we will continue to see businesses open and close, but don’t worry as long as in one year we have more open than close everything is awesome

    Oh and yes please shop local.

  19. In reality I’m not free and easy with your money. The fundamental of municipal finance is that businesses pay commercial taxes. The commercial taxes in ALL municipalities will offset property taxes in those municipalities. Towns with healthy commercial tax revenue, usually have lower property taxes. This is just the basic play to lure businesses into municipalities.
    Yes, some municipalities abuse the strategy (sports teams come to mind), but on a smaller scale it shouldn’t be a complicated exercise. In our case, I realize with the limited brainpower displayed by our administration, that this is a simply a fantasy

  20. Wake up, fools! Why are Atlantic Beach, Lido Beach , Point Lookout flourishing without “downtowns”. Downtowns are things of the past. We don’t need to go downtown to buy our goods. The reason Long Beach has a financial probldm is that the City is supporting vast welfare populztion coupled with numerous democrat no show job beaucracy. You are fooling yourself believing the democrat lies about collecting more taxes for “development projects”. People decide what is economically viable based on the safety and desirability of a community. No government can create this. Government’s job is to provide a safe environment so that sucess can grow.

    Thus the north side of Long Beach goes abandoned because the democrats don’t want to upset their voting block that they have enslaved there with welfare programs.

  21. @Samsung — Those towns may be flourishing wit out downtown, BUT LB has a downtown, a big one with lots of commercial space, for blocks and blocks and blocks. What is supposed to be done with it? Board it up and ignore it? Convert it into more apartments?

  22. @RIF, Now you are talking. “Convert it into more apartments?” Long Beach has way too much commercial space, a serious discussion about contracting the commercial corridors in Long Beach needs to begin. It is 2015, not 1965, amazon, walmart, costco, etc every living person’s buying habits have changed dramatically since these store fronts were built. No longer do we patronize the butcher, the hardware store, the baker, the shoemaker, but yet we still have the buildings that house them and wonder why they cannot sustain businesses.

    The only problem with contraction of the commercial corridors is the ones in charge will rezone the properties to be six story residential buildings instead of garden size apartments. They will also add strorefronts to the first floor of the new buildings so what will end up is there will be the same (or more) commercial space along with 6 story buildings downtown.

    They need to cut back the available commercial space and increase the amount of residential possibilities while not overgrowing the area. A prime location for this contraction should be the west end. Allow the owners to knock down some of the stores and build residential, this will allow more residents/customers for fewer stores which will make the stores stronger.

  23. @Captain, what you say is obvious to anyone with a brain.

    Unfortunately the City’s thieves will never let go of the commercial tax rate they get on even the vacant stores. Who cares if they bankrupt the landlords? They’re Republicans anyway. They need to spend more and more and make more City positions for their kids and Brookhaven Democrats.

    The only rezoning we’ll ever see is the iStar kind: Special interest projects that put more burdens on the City’s taxpayers while lining pockets with graft or special favors.

    The real answer is to oust these crooks. Then — maybe then — we can see some real decision making and discussion, instead of arts councils, candle-light vigils and public forums about bathroom colors.

  24. @Samsung – they’re flourishing without down-towns because they didn’t have them to begin with and they have proximity to Long Beach’s. If they had a downtown that was being transformed into vacancies and nail salons like some kind of commercial Hoover-ville they’re real estate would likely be effected.

    But LB is hurting because of the out of control spending – it would probably have a more desirable “down-town” if it wasn’t in so much debt and didn’t need to take so much taxes from the businesses and people.

    Your comment about downtowns being a thing of the past is ridiculous. Almost everyone in their 20s or 30s picks the place they move to based on its access to restaurants, bars, shopping, etc.

  25. @Captain @ Jerry – i was thinking about this the other day. It’s like LB is locked in a model that no longer works. One or two story strip malls that run down park are just a graveyard of failed stores in 2015.

    There should be apartments built on top of them.

    The comment about stores being on the first floor being a problem – I don’t think so. That’s how these are built now – they should be (could be) co-ops/condos, and the rent paid by the stores keep the maintenance and HOA fees low.

    We could come up with ideas all day, but the debt LB has now is a problem – unless I’m too pessimistic.

  26. Downtowns are actually not a thing of the past, it’s the future. So many areas upstate in Saugerties, Hudson Valley, Saratoga, etc. are flourishing because of the amazing downtowns. So many people are looking to live in a community that has a sense of being, not heartless shopping centers you have to drive it and fight for a parking spot. Long Island is funny because overall it’s still being run by people who “left the city for the suburban lifestyle,” but now we see areas such as RVC, Patchogue and Huntington village booming, plus Westbury and Mineola not too far behind. Heck, Farmingdale by main street is even starting to look great.

    Check out 7th street in Garden City at lunch time on a weekday. You will see a booming downtown. The internet is making it so that we buy TVs and (soon) groceries cheaper than what local stores have, but good downtowns work if there is a good symmetry and balance. I would say the number 1 enemy of our downtown is the Waldbaum’s shopping center, plus the wide streets. The main part of town doesn’t have that downtown feel. Beech Street is definitely getting better, in my opinion.

    But I agree with West End Tom. Downtowns are actually the future in pretty much every area outside of Long Island. For the most part, people here choose to be frustrated in traffic or finding a parking spot.

  27. What LB has going for it is the fact that it is a City and for those in the center of town or down in the west end, they don’t need to get in their cars to go to eat, get a paper, book, drink, go to the beach, pool, etc. That is extremely rare in LI. We also have density from apartment buildings and a good amount of small lots. So, we are better-positioned than lots of places in LI or other suburbs of NYC to have commercial. The question is what is the viable. The places highlighted in earlier posts have found the right mix – restaurants, bars, arts and entertainment, and the right mix of stores that carry the basics and others unique things that will interest folks to stroll LB before or after a movie or dinner (GC is a different case bc of the large service businesses and government and legal/accounting firms providing business to 7th Street and Franklin).
    We had guests on Saturday from Houston and they raved about the walkability of LB. They live in the City of Houston and said they get in a car to do everything.

    Because of the amount of commercial, I believe we do need the support of out-of-towners. That seems more feasible to me than trying to figure out how to reduce the existing commercial district.
    Folks from IP, O’side, Atlantic Beach do come to LB for dinner, beach, movies, and they will come to LB in greater numbers and spend when LB downtown has more to offer. That does require leadership from the City government – encouraging the right businesses and cleaning up the downtown district; coordination with the Chamber and business owners. A hospital or real medical facility would surely help in this regard, too. Not just with the staff and patients/visitors to the facility, but in the maintaining in LB of medical practices.

    This is not impossible.

    Btw, I could not care less if LB had half or a third of the commercial area it has. I would be happy in a sleepy beach town. But we are not a sleepy beach town. We do not have one block of commercial space. So, given what we have, what I want is occupied stores, successful businesses.

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