50 W. Broadway (That empty lot next to the Allegria Hotel)

A few people have emailed me regarding the empty lot next to the Allegria Hotel. They wanted to know if I knew what was going on with it. I don’t.

What we know so far:

  1. It’s not owned by the Allegria Hotel, but they did try to buy it at one point.
  2. There was a bank auction on September 28th. Who won the auction? I don’t know yet.
  3. It’s zoned for commercial (remember the old Turquoise On the Boardwalk?). Maybe mixed use will be used?
  4. The site is approximately 17,140 square feet (Yeah, I got that from the banner in the photo below.)
  5. THAT LOT IS AN EYESORE!!

Rumors:

  1. Barnes & Noble looked at it. (Not sure how true this is, but it’s fun to talk about.)
  2. 12 story residential tower. (That was emailed to me. Not sure how far it got or how true it is.)
  3. Parking for the Allegria (Not going to happen) The hotel apparently has some financial troubles; they aren’t going to spend millions of dollars for parking.

What will probably happen:

I’m guessing that we will see something that is mixed-use:  Parking at street level, retail on the boardwalk,  two or three stories of condos above that.  I don’t think anything more dense will be appropriate, unless it provides enough parking to accommodate it. (1.5 spots per apartment is the going rate these days.)

What kind of commercial-use would work on the boardwalk?   A Restaurant/Cafe?  Retail?  Both? (See Barnes & Noble Rumor)

We already have the over priced and inconsistent Atlantica @ the Allegria next door.  Another food joint would be nice, but it would have to be different. More casual? Better food? CHEAPER? Yeah, that all works for me.  I’m scared that the only thing that keeps the Atantica afloat is booze.   I would love for Long Beach to have its staple – a place that Long Beach is known for. Such a location could do just that, as long as it’s good and cheap.

Can retail work on the boardwalk? hmm… What kind of store would work there? A clothing store? A surf shop? Can such a place survive the winter months?  Barnes & Noble (presumably with Starbucks) sounds very interesting. I’m just not sure where the book industry is going with all these Kindles, Nooks & iPads taking over.  Then again, sand and sun aren’t kind to technology, so books are the way to go as far as a beach is concerned.

As always, I will post whatever info that I can dig up.  Tell me your thoughts!

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Rumors, Rumors, Rumors: Barnes & Noble by the Sea? W Hotel?

I generally don’t like posting rumors, but this new one is extremely interesting. The second one is just an update.

1. Do you know that vacant lot next to the Allegria Hotel that we keep complaining about?  A few weeks ago it was mentioned that the Allegria doesn’t own that lot and the owner had no plans on selling it to them.  Now, keep in mind, that lot is actually zoned for retail. A strip of food shops used to exist there, but were knocked down during the King David renovation – thus making it seem like it was part of the Allegria development.  Fast forward to today:  a reader named Hank commented that Barnes & Noble are now in the picture:

Heard they want to build a Barnes and Noble on the Ocean with a Cafe. They were there surveying the property.

Barnes & Nobles does in fact have absolutely no stores in this particular area of southern Nassau County.  Could a Long Beach location make sense for a company that is now battling book sales against Kindles & iPads?  Maybe destination, gimmick stores with cafe’s on the ocean are exactly what Barnes & Noble needs to keep the profits coming it- an evolution in retail.   Can anybody fill us in on any truth or updates to this?

2. W Hotel taking over Jackson by the Beach? About a year ago I posted that the Jackson was for sale.  In April it was brought up whether or not the hotel was still open because it looked like it went dark.  With that, it was posted in our forums and I got an emails from two separate people that W Hotels were looking to take over.  Current status: Well, the real estate listing that I originally posted has since been taken down.  I recently gave Jackson a ring and they are still alive and kicking.  It doesn’t look like anything is gonna happen soon.   Anybody got updates on this rumor?

Of course I could just be getting duped on both these rumors, but I am willing to take a risk… this is a blog after all, not a newspaper. Why not have some fun with them?

discuss…….

‘Lazy Days’ are numbered

My wife told me that the east end book store ‘Lazy Days’ (651 E Park Ave) is going to close at the end of August. Well that stinks. The owner might reopen somewhere near the train station, which would be a better location. In the meantime, he’s just going to concentrate on internet sales.

I would go in an interview the owner, but I once did a post calling for a bigger book store like (cough cough) Barnes & Noble. I doubt he knows about that, but I’m not taking any chances….

Speaking of lazy days, I was too lazy to get out of my car this morning to take a photo of the store, so I grabbed that image from Google Street View.