What about Sports Rehabilitation at the Medical Arts Pavilion?

The recently announced Medical Arts Pavilion that South Nassau is considering for Long Beach will offer the following services:

  • Dialysis center
  • Behavioral health
  • Radiology and medical imaging services
  • Same-day ambulatory surgical center
  • Family medicine

That list is most likely incomplete. I’m not going to pretend I know anything about the medical industry, but Long Beach is an extremely active community. Should Sports Rehabilitation be considered? I don’t recall it being mention. Just think of some of the activities we do. Discuss! sportsrehab

15 Replies to “What about Sports Rehabilitation at the Medical Arts Pavilion?”

  1. “Is considering” are the key words here I think???? seems like this is all a SMOKE SCREEN to shut people up about complaining not having a Hospital yet…just another continued way of putting it off till they find a place in town somewhere? I am saying it do not believe this.look at how many times since Sandy the community has been put off by them. and each time it relates to a large number of active complaints. 2 yrs ago in May they were going to open something. It’s all delay tactics..do some checking and you will see I could very well be correct.. I’m saying watch your backs, Really,truthfully mean this people, don’t trust them…cover yourself, by not shutting up and believing so BS and pretty artist renditions of the new and improved..BS I tell you plain and simple

  2. I am cautiously optimistic. Considering the amount of FEMA money SNCH received, if they don’t do anything, us LB residents will be after them with pitchforks. But you are correct to look at this plan as a smokescreen. I don’t believe anything until the shovel hits the ground.

  3. Sorry about that ^^^ my fingers stutter!

    I hate to say it, but I tend to agree with Diana. You don’t just slap up a medical arts building and have healthcare. That’s what happened in the Lancer Building on Park that has been empty for over 15 years.

    The vague phrasing, the fact they had to go to Louisiana to find an engineering/architectural firm to find the existing building unacceptable, the fact that while there is water allegedly seeping into the existing building, making it unsuitable for an ER, they might use it for Assisted Living……it is all smoke and mirrors. And as they do their carney act they are doing anything they like on the property with no benefit to the people of Long Beach. That rendering could be of any building anywhere. Sorry, but I am very skeptical.

  4. Well, I was hoping to see some support for this idea Anthony, but it looks like it didn’t strike a ligament, garnering only more skepticism and negativity from MBIMBY ‘s (MUST BE IN MY…). Now I’ll be the first to say that I have no knowledge or training in determining the financial viability of hospital centers, but I do believe this idea is brilliant and that it would serve the needs of the community and the region. LB is a vibrant active community of surfers, runners, bikers and walkers as no other on Long Island. Nearly 60% of LBers are 25-64, and many, like me, are very active baby boomers who live here because it allows us to feed those passions. Another 11% are over 65. We provide a demographic sweet spot for a sports rehabilitation and orthopedic specialty. Turns out that SNCH would like to make a name for itself in orthopedics by offering Orlin and Cohen as its in house orthopedic practice. Wouldn’t it be great to have a magnet orthopedic practice, centered in sports active LB, perhaps re energizing our past civic motto, America’s Healthiest City, as it draws not only from our active aging population, but the thousands of other active baby boomers and seniors who come to run/walk/ride our boards or swim and surf our beaches? Wouldn’t it be wonderful if it could be the competition for the only other facility of orthopedic repute, centered in NYC but with very limited services in Uniondale, the Hospital for Special Surgery? Wouldn’t it be cool if they could lure HSS’s Dr. Kennedy to join them in creating a highly respected center for sports rehab and advanced orthopedic surgery in Long Beach, an acclaimed alternative to the hassle of commuting across the river to obtain state of the art services to keep us running? Maybe hospital sponsored wellness, fitness, cooling and stretching stations on the boardwalk? I suspect this could be financially viable, it would definitely respond to community need, and could be a magnet to draw clients into Long Beach who then eat here, buy here, maybe even move here. But what do I know? Other than great minds think alike Anthony! I shared my thoughts on this months ago on this blog and last week with a SNCH executive who seemed receptive.

  5. Sense, While your idea at first glance looks like a great addition to LB, a more realistic review will lead to the conclusion that the HSS, or any successful specialty provider will not choose LB to open a new location providing the caliber of care a location such as HSS can provide. People need to realize that we are in a geographically isolated location. The HSS opened their long island location in the place that made the most sense, right smack in the middle of Nassau County surrounded by highways which provide easy access for their patients.

    Even the services that SNCH is proposing to offer at the Arts Building will only draw from LB, Island Park and some part of Oceanside, just for convenience and time anyone from Merrick road north would seek care at a closer more convenient location.

    And yes people will travel further for superior care but that will take time and once again companies will spend their investment dollars where they can get the most return by efficiently providing care to the most patients, and that is not in Long Beach

  6. Point well taken Ob, and this geo isolation seems to be the bugaboo in so many aspects of LB development from retail to restaurants or colleges, I just am guessing based on my own and others experiences in obtaining state of the art sports orthopedics, that our active community, which many travel to regularly to access Boardwalk or ocean activity, might be just right for a high visibility high credibility sports rehab/ ortho center. HSS LI is centrally located but very limited. Going into NYC for most services is not fun, especially with an ortho problem. Of course this would be to augment the important work of the emergency room and urgent care facilities that are the major need of our barrier island population. Artificial knees, hips, physical therapy and other modalities that enable aging but active boomers is a growth industry. It would be great if “Americas Healthiest City”, full of Boardwalk runners,walkers, bikers, swimmers and surfers, became a destination for acclaimed ortho/sports medicine. Another need widely acknowledged? Mental Health and Substance Abuse… also worthy, but I predict NIMBYs not MBIMBYs on that one? But again, what do I know about running hospitals? Thanks Ob

  7. Sense,
    IMO, the isolation of LB is a large factor in the development, lack thereof and success and not so much success of the various businesses that open in this town. I marvel at the owner’s of these businesses who choose to open in our town as opposed to a more accessible location.

    Using your idea of locating/developing a top notch ortho center here in long beach based on the fact that over 60% of our residents are aged 25-64 while Nassau’s percentage is less that 55%. That lower 55% equates to over 700,000 people while our higher percentage equates to barely 20K. If you were investing in any type of facility (medical or otherwise) would you target the location that gives you access to the possible 20K customers or the pool of 700K possible customers.

  8. Captain O… The world renowned Helen Hayes Hospital in West Haverstraw ( spelling?) Exit 14 on The Palisades Parkway in Rockland County, is much less strategically located then Long Beach.is.
    Yet, people come from all over the USA to get the benefit of their rehabilitative expertise.
    I’ve been there. It’s in the boondocks compared to Long Beach..

    Sense makes senses….again

  9. Mr Boodman, Even you can realize that facility would have less chance of opening today than our arts plaza does. Made sense in 1900 when that hospital opened, not in 2015.

  10. This is wonderdul. I agree that many people in college presently study sports medicine, wellness, etc and when they graduate there are no jobs to return to here. I also agree with Captain Obvious ‘s position that we may too isolated to sustain such a department focused on this specialty. (After all, our previous hospital’s finances didn’t have a happily ever after ending). So I was at the South Nassau Meeting last week, I talked to Dr. Kugler, and I asked for services that are tied into our “unique location” like drownings (which occur from the private and public beaches in point lookout & Lido, to the public and private beaches in ATL. I then recognized my high school nurse at the meeting and thought How delightful tobgrt her take on all this. I unfortunately had to leave so I don’t have her take..which I’m frustrated about… But I do know that even though we have two large multi purpose sports complexes a block away from each other, our student population is decreasing dramatically. yet there have been no repurposing of schools, and (of course our school tax continues to increase.

  11. Again Capt. O, point taken, but despite citing LB demographics, I see the potential patient pool as LIs active baby boomers ,a increasing market for such services as life expectancy increases. Also Gen Xers, mill enials are engaging physical activities and conditioning as life commitments thereby necessitating more PT, sports rehab and ortho interventions. O this was just a brainstorming idea from a non expert. If the idea has merit, SNCH certainly doesn’t need me to tell them. I do however reject your notion that LB is so isolated that hardly anything would be considered viable, even when it is exceptional in quality.

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