Newsday article on iStar tax exemption & how do you feel about this project?

Newsday article-  Developer: We need tax breaks to build on Long Beach Superblock. Some notable quotes:

“[The developer] said it cannot move forward without a 25-year tax exemption from Nassau County.

….The proposed tax credit would require iStar to pay at least the $500,000 annual property taxes for the life of the PILOT. The company estimates the taxes could increase to $9 million by the 26th year.

….The city also is giving iStar a mortgage recording tax exemption while iStar asks for the PILOT and a sales tax exemption from the IDA.

…..About 2,220 construction jobs and 450 permanent jobs would be created by the project, with a total payroll of about $109 million, Frey said.

….The developers estimate it would create $119 million of new economic activity for Long Beach and $4.8 million in sales tax for Nassau County.

Please head over to Newsday and read the full article – Developer: We need tax breaks to build on Long Beach Superblock.

I have to admit, I am so torn over this whole istar/superblock thing. Yes, the tax exemption is a major FU to Nassau County/LB taxpayers, but I’m personally sick and tired of looking at that disgusting garbage-filled beach front lot in the middle of our city. I am also sick and tired of having a central downtown that is barely hanging onto life support. People here need jobs. Our local businesses need customers. I’m seeing comments how these buildings won’t have any positive impact on Long Beach. That’s not true: 450 permanent jobs & $119 million in economic activity, according to Newsday doesn’t sound so bad. More people = more money being spent locally. It’s not rocket science. Hey, maybe new buildings will help out with our Broken Window Theory problem,

But…..many residents are pissed by the way this is all unfolding. I don’t blame them.

But yeah, I am so torn. Perhaps if they were four shorter buildings and the city worked out a deal for more public space…. but let’s face it, it’s been 40 years of developers trying to build something at the superblock. That’s such a big failure on everyone’s part. Something will get built there eventually. It’s beach front property, walking distance to the LIRR. Nassau County wants this to be built. It’s going to happen and I don’t think complaining at the public hearing on May 27th will have any impact. Just my 2 cents, but I could be wrong. How about this:

  1. Do you agree that property is very valuable?
  2. Do you agree the Long Beach is a place people might want to live in?
  3. Is living near the beach with a view of the beach something that’s attractive?
  4. Do you agree that the superblock is walking distance to the beach/downtown/lirr?

If you say YES to all four then you agree that something will get built there eventually. Even if you don’t want anything built there.

I would love to hear an intelligent conversation about this. Instead of calling me a dumb asshole [which is true, by the way] and saying we don’t need this crap, please put on your thinking caps.

60 Replies to “Newsday article on iStar tax exemption & how do you feel about this project?”

  1. I read the article and have to wonder if the chamber president and his magically optimistic calculator (1,000 at the NYS DOH Forum, 17K add’l summer residents) was used to come up with the numbers as reported. They seem to be rather high or perhaps just not well defined
    –450 permanent jobs – seems rather high for 522 apartments, how many of those are at the retail spots on the board walk?
    –$109M payroll, is that for the 450 or is that including the construction payroll? per year? over life of project?
    –$119M in new economic activity? is that per year? over life of IDA bribe? That comes out to $225K impact for each apartment per year?

    While I agree with the author that the property needs to be developed and since iStar is the only one that wants to dance with us, this project is probably going to get approved by the IDA, but I question their numbers and impact.

  2. I agree more people at some point means more money spent locally. But I do not think this is the right project or the right size project. The prices they are suggesting will need to be paid for rent I do not think is feasible in Long Beach. I do not see how anyone wins from this current development EXCEPT istar. Which is NEVER going to build this building. They are “cheese” developers. They ALMOST NEVER develop anything. They just develop the concept and put up the money. Then once they go through the hoops, deal with whomever they have to deal with, they get the biggest best project they possibly can and then they make it look all nice and pretty and package it in a bow and then they sell it, and someone else hopefully builds it. They walk away with the “cheese”…..left on top and we are stuck with the overly tall overly dense way out of proportion for the neighborhood building. I just do not see how people are going to pay the rental prices and then commute from there to work where? Where are all these new renters coming from?
    But yes, something has to be done. Haberman tried developing it years ago and I think is still entitled to monies form that property. So once again we see poor decisions coming back to haunt Long Beach. Something needs to be built, but it should be within character of the neighborhood, within zoning ordinances and without the need for a 25 year tax abatement. Why should Long Beach and Nassau County subsidize peoples rent who are going to be paying luxury rental prices?
    And 450 permanent jobs? Where do they get that number from? $119,000,000 of new economic activity in Long Beach? What yearly? over 40 years? does that include the rent the tenants are paying as economic activity? Sounds like a pie in the sky number to me and the jobs number seems awfully high as well…

  3. @Captain Obvious & @Love This City you both bring up some excellent points. Regarding the jobs, I wonder if there is a why we can find out how many people work at the Avalon.

  4. I lived for 28 years in an oceanfront apartment one block from the I Star site. There were 90 apartments in the building and 2 permanent employees: One Superintendent, and one Porter. 450 permanent employees is a pack of lies.

    Is I Star providing 450 employee parking spaces? There’s proof.

  5. The last time the city did this to improve the economy of LB the taxes for the home owners went way up….better for business,more income. crap. more dangers,NO HOSPITAL…cut backs to the FIRE DEPT. sewer and water lines that aren’t good now being used even more. crowding. parking…THE CITY NOT COLLECTING TAXES FOR 25 YRS. WTH…didn’t work years ago..surely won’t do anything but cause more issues then not..i lived there for 50 yrs or more. was a home owner for 35 yrs. it’s all BS from the city that can’t afford to pay their bills now ..they need the money….do not have mixed emotions.. they are screwing you yet just keep letting them..

  6. The article mentions a public hearing on May 27th, does anyone know if that date is written in stone? I have a meeting that night with the attorney handling my property tax grievance and I am thinking I may need to push that back to another night so I can speak out against giving this company a tax break.

  7. Today’s newsday has an artical that says the new istar building is partners with Avalon, and that it will be a Avalon addition.

  8. Two 15 story Buildings in Long Beach? 522 apartments, in a one block area. Come on Long Beach, you can’t figure out that’s to dense for our Barrier Island.

  9. Agree with Anthony that something needs to be done there, but this isn’t right. Under this logic, freeze and cut everyone’s taxes to benefit LB, but they won’t, ever. Why should iStar get a break when a new restaurant or a life long resident wouldn’t?

    The rent charged in this building will always be what it’s worth. Cutting taxes won’t drive the rents down, it will just change the pocket the money winds up in, and under this scenario, LB and its current residents lose.

    I actually have less of a problem with the building than most, but not built on the wallets of residents.

  10. There are two thoughts/concerns that come to mind when I think about this project:

    1) Council is all democrat party. Zapson is head of LB dems. Zapson is an attorney for the firm that represents istar. How is this not a conflict of interest situation?

    2) Some have stated that this development can “go Section 8”. I don’t understand how any of that works, or if that’s is true, but would it be a bad thing for L.B. were that to happen?

  11. Giving developers incentives to build is fairly common – and the only way to get ANY developer to build on this site. 4th avenue in Brooklyn is a perfect example of how this model works. It was an industrial wasteland that was re-zoned, most buildings have a 25 year tax abatement. The development has been phenomenal and the area is turning into a very nice place to live. This is how neighborhoods gentrify.

    Do people not see how LB is slowly dying? Businesses closing, shops empty, people without pride leaving garbage everywhere. Its sad. We need something to breath new life into this community! These buildings will attract young affluent singles / couples or empty nesters, not families, so wouldn’t be a drain on the school system, which as well all know, is the vast majority of our tax bills.

    If we don’t do something to attract young people, first as renters who hopefully fall in love with the area and decide to buy, then LB will continue to decline.

    From my perspective, I’d like to see every vacant eyesore in LB developed. Same for Atlantic Beach and all the dilapidated beach clubs on Ocean Blvd which are also tremendous eyesores.

    I’ve seen how this could play out before in other communities – you get a very vocal group of long time residents that object to change because of taxes, traffic, bla bla bla and they chase developers out of town, and the eyesore remains for 20 more years. Hopefully that is not the case with iStar.

  12. @Michael, that’s why I wrote this article in the first place. It’s not so much to just come out and be FOR or AGAINST, but to really question if it’s something that we really need here. There are countless articles about the suburbs dying and how Long Island needs to reinvent itself.

    There are a lot of issues going on in LB that needs to be addressed that a lot of people are completely ignoring: 1) many houses need to be upgraded or lifted. 2) too many houses/buildings have driveways that slope down – that’s going to be a flood insurance nightmare and don’t have much of a resale value (sorry to those with these houses) 3) a lot of old houses and buildings that are not kept up and are in dire need for renovation. 4) many apartment/co-op buildings are old. they don’t cry out “beach” since they have no balconies, outdoor space, amenities that people these days are looking for.

    Look at some of these buildings that are going up in Brooklyn and tell me where you see equivalents in LB:

    Movie screening rooms, bicycle rooms, billiards room, children rooms, cyberdoormenm, pianos in the lobby, exercise rooms, video game rooms. These amenities are insane! But it’s what people are looking for. You can view more here:

    What I am trying to say is…. it could be nice to have a couple of nice buildings in LB… that’s all.

  13. I think you mean it would be nice to have people who want to pay for nice buildings in Long Beach. The market drives it, if the market is there it should happen, if it is not than it should not be built. But to say there is a market and the only way to get it done is to freeze taxes for 25 years how does that help adjust for the usage of sewer systems, water systems, the beach, the roads, that is why the taxes go up, instead of it being vacant with no apparent usage of municipal systems to having 522 apartments on an old aging system of pipes and roads, that is why their taxes are going to go up, the property is going to be using more “stuff” that needs to be paid for by someone somehow, but it will have to be paid for by the rest of the taxpayers of Long Beach to subsidize Avalon style living? So the retiree living in a two bedroom bungalow in the president streets should have to pay the taxes for the empty nester living large in the New luxury towers?

  14. Am I the only one who remembers how Avalon pushed the limits to build the existing overly tall building and the promises of boardwalk level amenities for public use? All we ended up with was an overly tall building (for that time the limit was 6 stories). Developers all cry poverty to get tax breaks and the fact is they don’t need them, they simply apply for all the give aways government is so willing to bestow upon them.

    I agree the land should be developed, but I also feel that allowing buildings that tall will just add to the feeling that Long Beach has walled off the ocean.

    At some point we need to stop worrying about what is happening in Brooklyn or Queens. Long Beach needs to develop its own identity and style and decide whether to concentrate its energies on improving life for the current residents, many of whom have been here for generations and helped create the desirable feeling the city has or chase after the stated demographics of young professionals and empty nesters, most of whom will stay a few years then move on.

    For all the talk of how we have to support our merchants there has been little or no analysis of what those merchants offer and how are they supporting the residents of LB. We have nail salons and spas, restaurants, bars, real estate offices, a very few specialty clothing stores and that is it. You can’t buy a pair of shoes, hardware items, children’s clothing, gardening equipment, furniture, appliances. We have 3 grocery stores, 2 that are limited by size and one limited by bad management. Of course we go out of town to shop!

    Instead of all the tacky fairs and food trucks, the city should have developed a waterfront park with amenities, perhaps a restaurant and cabanas. That would have cost the citizens about the same as this tax abatement and probably brought more visitors to the city.

    If we all sit back and moan and groan about this latest FU from the developers instead of showing up May 27 and voicing our displeasure then we deserve what we get.

  15. If you believe that LB has huge potential, could benefit by attracting new residents, and want a buzzing community, the iStar project will help. The biggest benefit of iStar is that it could act as a catalyst for revitalization.

    I lived in “fringe” Brooklyn for most of my adult life before moving to the barrier island. I can tell you that all it takes is the first major development (typically lured by tax incentives) to revitalize a neighborhood. You get the first wave of new “early adapters” in, then their friends and others follow.

    I understand the concerns about the tax exemption, but you need to think long term. Once you get the first wave of new residents and spur demand, other developments will follow, and often times the developments that follow do not receive the same tax incentives. Again, Brooklyn is a good example. Developments built 5-6 years ago have 25 yr tax abatements, while those under construction today do not. My hope would be that the iStar project could be the first of many for LB.

  16. @Michael – Trying to compare the gentrification of Brooklyn to Long Beach/LI needs to stop. Every Long Islander wants to believe that they’re going to have their homes worth 100 times what they paid for it, but it’s not going to happen; so they have to sit in envy of their BK counterparts.

    The elements that allowed it to happen aren’t present here the way that they were in Bk. And it begins with low cost housing. The homes on Long Island are too expensive for gentrification to take place.

    Tax abatement to developers isnt apples to apples in LB compared to NYC because NYC has a city income tax – do you want to pay 4.5% of your income to the city?

    When you add people who use services there’s always a hole to fill financially – abatements
    add to it.

    But When the NYC undergoes a resurgence in building and adds a million people – they get 4.5% of their money.

    Not to mention you’re putting the cart way before the horse with gentrifying LB. Development is not just putting up a vacancy sign on a luxury apartment building who’s owners don’t pay taxes.

    You need to have something to lure people to The area – restaurants, culture, etc. then They want to move there.

  17. I totally get what you are saying, but I think comparing Long Beach to Brooklyn and Queens is justified. Our community has more in common with those areas than we do with places like Garden City, Levittown or any other Nassau County town. The most important reason is because LB attracts non-NYers to live here. I am always amazed by how many people I meet in LB who aren’t native to Long Island or even NY. Yet most Long Island towns are mostly long Islanders. Does that make sense? I feel like I just wrote a tongue twister.

    As far as improving quality of life, I get your point with those who have been living here forever, but they will could/soon be priced out, unless we create more housing options. The NYC/Long Island area in general is becoming a place for two groups of people: The rich and the poor. Middleclass are not just being chased out of Long Island, but NY state. Better, diverse and more housing options will fix this.

    Perhaps these nice apartments will attract many who live in LB already looking for a beach front place that is new and nice. Their old apartments will be available for those who can’t afford iStar, yet they are more affordable because they are older.

  18. very good point with income tax. Actually a reason why so many young families are moving to areas like Bellerose because they are close to Long Island, can send their kids to private school, but their property taxes in Queens are so much lower.

    There are pros and cons of gentrification. I would hate for LB to become ‘hipster town’ like Williamsburg, but a little would be nice. I think LB is the only Long Island area in Nassau which could become partially gentrified.

  19. @West End Tom “You need to have something to lure people to The area – restaurants, culture, etc. then They want to move there.”

    I agree with that too. We do have the beach, boardwalk, surfing, soon-to-be state of the art skatepark, an art scene, farmers market, etc. LB is getting there. We need more winter stuff. We also need to clean up Park Avenue commercial district.

    Another destination that creates jobs, but doesn’t include the beach or boardwalk is something we need.

  20. Not everyone is fixated on what their house is worth. They bought it, they love it here and wouldn’t live anywhere else, and that’s good enough for them.

    From what I see, there aren’t enough people in LB to support more restaurants / culture that we all want. Many of the business are already struggling. I think you need the people first, and the other amenities will follow.

    Anthony is right, much of the housing stock in LB is not all that attractive to many buyers / renters. So if not iStar, then what?

    At the end of the day, we need to focus on the needs and desires of future residents, who will be the next generation of residents, along with the needs of the current residents / demographic.

  21. Can someone clearly and concisely explain what IStar is asking for and what it means for LB and LB taxpayers. I cannot tell from the 2 Newsday articles I’ve seen on this. [I did see the claims about jobs and revenues, which seem ludicrous — although I still would like to see the back-up on that. I’d note that IStar got the Zoning Board to approve variances for height, number of units, etc. based on the argument that that is the only way the project would be economically feasible. I do NOT recall a tax abatement also being mentioned.]

  22. That’s a load of crap, cause Williamsburg and most areas of Brooklyn turned around on their own due to the proximity to the city with an easy commute and lower cost of living. No tax incentives needed. And LB is the same, no tax incentives needed. We live on the damn beach! This is prime real estate.

  23. Ok Michael…

    You’re the one who brought up gentrification and brooklyn. By definition gentrification is low income areas transforming into high income areas.

    If people aren’t fixated on their home values, love where they live, and wouldn’t live anywhere else – why develop?

    Anyway, culture/art/entertainment – LB may never be NYC but it’s so great in other ways. If you ask residents one of the #1 problems here or if we had to cite something that keeps new residents out is parking. Somehow this problem is unsolvable by elected officials. How is that possible?

    The istar development will only exacerbate existing problems, and put a strain on resources they want to not fund.

    Do you not love in Lb, and/or Do you gain financially by it being built?

  24. Almost all the new condo developments in Brooklyn built 5-6 years ago had 15 or 25 year tax abatements. Taxes running between $20 and $50 per month. You don’t think that was an incentive to buy in an up and coming neighborhood?

  25. Section 8 Workforce Housing. The only thing that qualified for PILOT abatement. Democrats assuring themselves votes — buying them with your tax dollars.

    Just about every developer has left Long Beach and most of the apartment buildings are up for sale or have been sold.

    If you are a taxpayer, get out now, or prepare to live in Easten Far Rockaway.

  26. This may be the first time I agree with a Newsday editorial. Newsday says that the City Council supports this corrupt scheme to saddle Long Beach homeowners with the $9,000,000 tax that iStar is trying to avoid paying.

    That’s corruption, plain and simple.

    Time to kick Zapson and his thieves to the curb or simply to pick up and leave what’s soon to become the hell-hole with was in the 1970’s

  27. Another effort by the Democrats to “correct” income inequality. The taxpayer will foot the bill for the welfare scum who elects the Democrats. Great scheme.

  28. I believe a 10 year exemption might be more appropriate. No good deal makes everybody happy. Long Beach should not be bullied…I’m not sure those representing the residents are the best negotiators.

    I agree with you that the property has been a sore spot for the city for many years. After settling the law suit, there must be creative alternatives presented to the citizens. Let “our” leaders use their creative braintrusts to develop alternatives.

    Real Estate moguls should be willing to accommodate a plan that works for all. I too would like to see details on these new job opportunities. I know the economic impact would be positive…it’s a matter of cost/benefit. And we should be prepared to strike a good bargain, and if that is not possible with these folks, we should have alternatives to consider.

    Leadership, go to work!

  29. Over 40 years ago I visited Myrtle Beach SC. Two years ago I drove through it again and was flabbergasted at the changes. High rises all over the place. A total change .
    I was told yesterday by an acquaintance that the same thing has happened in Fort Lauderdale although I havnt been there in years.
    I could be wrong but I think once these two buildings go up that it will signal a significant change and in just a few short years we will see more and more of these outsized buildings.
    This will fundamentally change the character of LB IMHO.

    I’m personally opposed to these changes , for a variety of reasons, but mainly because I prefer a more residential feel to an area.
    If a majority of people want these high rises then so be it but I think everyone should fully understand what the future potentially holds.

    Only a few years ago a ” developer” sought to put up oceanfront buildings in the WE that were substantially out of code. The reaction from the residents was fierce and the plan was disallowed. But what happens the next time?

    As far as “prime” beachfront property goes, take a ride over the Atlantic Beach Bridge and head west. There you will see mile after mile of empty property that has sat that way for decades.

    But that’s a whole other story.

  30. I have so much to say, but here is my biggest problem with this “development.” My problem with this whole mess of a situation…there is NO MASTER PLAN! They are just plopping two unprecedented bldgs in the middle of the boardwalk, but there has absolutely no talk of connectivity to the central business district or beyond. I said this to the istar representatives at their presentation last year and they agreed.

    I think the SuperBlock would be a easier “pill” to swallow if we had an UPDATED comprehensive master plan for LB. They talk of bayside revitilization, and Edwards Blvd, and Art walks on Magnolia, but there is NO connectivity. istar is the Master Planner in Asbury Park, and that seaside community is BOOMING.

    Long Beach deserves better when it comes to development. We need a strong, experienced URBAN planning department, not piecemeal development attempts by politicians.

  31. I think a lot of people are really missing the connection between Brooklyn and long beach. It may be further from the city than Brooklyn, but I speak with people on a weekly basis who are thinking about making the move here. It’s a lifestyle choice that’s extremely attractive to people who are paying $3500 a month to live in a cramped apartment who need to take a sardine can subway 25+ minutes to get to work every day. Living by the beach, surfing, swimming, biking by the boardwalk, fishing or whatever it is you do here are things that most city dwellers either dream about, or need to plan a whole day around. The lifestyle here is enviable, despite our lack of amenities and decent food, shopping etc. but all that can be had in the city. Rent is cheaper than brooklyn, and getting rid of that 4.5% tax only helps the cause even more. The old timer residents may want to hang on to the past with battered, queens style 1950 houses and fake stucco store fronts, but the next generation isn’t going to be blinded by nostalgia. This town is tired. It needs new blood and a facelift. That doesn’t mean we have to build 15 story buildings to get there, but if that is what it takes to give the new blood a foothold, I can deal with that.

    This is not just another Long Island suburb, nobody has conversations with their friends like “yeah, I’m thinking about moving to westbury.” “Oh shit, that would be amazing, it would be so great to be by Walmart and Costco!” People do have those conversations about long beach.

  32. If Only lb had community planning meetings with expert planners on hand….. Oh wait, we do. Did you go to the last meeting or just complain about everything on blogs… Whoever you are.

  33. Nassau county republican IDA will make the call here. If they give istar the tax break lb republicans will try to ignore that it was county republicans and twist story to say city council gave it. If the county republicans don’t do it the lb republicans will be mad because they can’t blame local Dems for it.

    Bottom line, project seems amazing and even Anthony likes it. He’s just afraid to support it because his friends claim to dislike it.

    As always, everything in this town comes down to democrypts and the rebloodlicans.

    Time for a third party. I nominate Denis Kelly as party leader. Maybe Marvin Weiss can run with Barbara Mosca and John McLaughlin?

  34. Show me one experienced urban planner with a resume outside of LI, who is employed by the City of LB. Can you name one?

    And I use my real name when I post. No need to hide my opinion behind fake monikers.

  35. Exactly how does Avalon expect to rent 540 units to people paying the rents that thy Re getting now without having low income Goverment subsidized welfare people there?
    I hear that they can’t fill thier current building now that’s a quarter of the size, so their going to fill 540 units?

  36. Quick newsday search resulted in this. Does she still work here?


    Planner gets award from Irish institute

    Long Beach City Planner Megan Porter has received a National Planning Award from the Dublin-based Irish Planning Institute.

    Porter was part of a team that worked on a project called GreensPace Corridor: A Centre of Excellence — A Place of Resilience about downtown development and sustainable infrastructure. She lives in Long Beach and has worked for the city since last year.

    The Irish Planning Institute gives out several awards every year that are designed to highlight successful urban and rural planning.

    Porters project displayed the very best attributes of a youthful and fresh approach in meeting planning challenges, the jury citation said.

    Porter completed the project while a student at University College Dublin in Ireland. She holds a degree in regional and urban planning from the university.

    She said would like to apply the concepts of her project to her work in Long Beach.

    We are looking to evaluate zoning, transportation, economic development, hazard mitigation, and a number of other factors, Porter said.

  37. While we are not sure if Megan still works here but this Herald artice from last week says Patricia Bourne does. Do you know her?,66898?sub_id=66898&referring_url=%2Fstories%2FCommunity-feedback-key-to-citys-comprehensive-plan%2C66898%3Fpage%3D2%26content_source%3D

    Community feedback key to city’s comprehensive plan
    Projects to be selected based on residents’ input
    By Matthew Ern
    1 2 3 4 5 Next page >

    Patricia Bourne, Director of Economic Development for Long Beach, spoke on a panel at Touro Law about the city’s recovery efforts and the importance of public engagement in planning.
    As reconstruction efforts continue throughout Long Beach, officials are looking to create a more resilient and economically sustainable city. They began developing an updated Comprehensive Plan earlier this year that focuses on the town’s future.

    The goal of the plan, officials said, is rebuilding and sustainability, emphasizing initiatives that residents deem most important. At a public information meeting on April 28 at the Magnolia Senior Center, officials shared aspects of the updated plan with residents and solicited feedback from them on the projects they would like to see in the future.

    “I’m glad they’re doing this,” said resident Rachel Miller, who came to ask about plans to build an esplanade — a walking and sitting area similar to the boardwalk — near Reynolds Channel, to beautify the north side of the city. “I hope they’re taking some of the suggestions. It’s great that they’re asking about all kids of community issues.”

    The city developed a comprehensive plan in 2007 that never got off the ground, officials said. Patricia Bourne, Long Beach’s director of economic development, said that the plan needed to be re-examined in light of the recent recession and the devastation of Hurricane Sandy.

    A push to shift the city to a 12-month economy has also necessitated an updated plan. The new one will deal not only with economic factors, but environmental issues, in the interest of preparing the city for another catastrophic storm. “We have to look more seriously at resiliency to protect our homeowners, businesses and infrastructure,” Bourne said.

    A $25 million grant from the Governor’s Office of Storm Recovery will be earmarked for building up the bulkheads on the north shore in accordance with the city’s Community Reconstruction Plan, she explained, adding that Sandy aid money would not cover all of the reconstruction projects the city would undertake, and that the comprehensive plan would help prioritize them. Once the plan is in place, the city will apply for more state and federal funding… (read more)

  38. Ms. Borne, the new Long Beach City Planner, is Al DAmato’s receptionist at Park Properties, his lobby firm which represents IStar.

  39. Ms. Borne took a few on-line college courses. The Long Beach Democrats pay her $132,000, a Ford Explorer and gas of your money.

  40. And they (If the intern is still here) work under the economic development department which is very different from a planning department. Search Patty’s resume from before her time in Long Beach, she has a lot of experience with affordable housing. What a coincidence.

  41. LB Economic Development Director Patricia Bourne does not work for Park Strategies, a listing of their employees including Bio’s can be found on the website. iStar is not a PS client, at least not yet, and of course D’Amato knows all about what is going on and who the players are.

    Park Strategies has bigger fish to fry for now, South Nassau is their client and they have their hands on the $154 million in LBMC/FEMA funds.

    Good point to bring up at the 5/27 meeting, iStar is wants to add 100’s of residents to LB with a Trailer for an emergency room. I hope none of the new tenants have a heart attack or stroke on a summer weekend at 500PM. Good luck going up LB Road into Oceanside or worse heading toward the Loop Parkway with beach club traffic leaving the area along with boat traffic putting both bridges up.

  42. Jessie and Mandy are trolling the city planners and I guess they’re getting trolled back. EIther Jessie and Mandy are flat out liars supporting the Hennessy/Lomonte republicans or just wildly misinformed:

    City FB posted this today:

    On May 15, 2015, two City of Long Beach Department of Economic Development and Planning (DED&P) staffers, Megan Porter and Emily Humes, were honored at the annual LI Section of the American Planning Association (APA) Arthur Kunz Memorial Scholarship Breakfast held at The Sustainability Institute at Molloy College. Megan and Emily were each awarded a full scholarship to attend the annual APA National Conference held recently in Seattle, Washington. The third scholarship winner works for Sustainable LI, Gabrielle Alpert.

    Photo (l to r): Sean Sallie, APA LI Section Director; Patti Bourne, City of Long Beach Economic Development and Planning Director and former APA LI Section Director; Gabrielle Alper, Scholarship Winner, Emily Humes, Scholarship Winner, Megan Porter, Scholarship Winner, Theresa Appel, DED&P intern, and Kathryn Eiseman, APA LI Section Treasurer


  43. Anthony, I have been looking for a 1 bedroom condo in LB for a while and I agree with you when you talk about amenities that people are looking for. Most of the condos I have viewed have musty smelling lobbies, low income style hallways, views of parking lots, another building, or scaffolding. I can’t justify investing my savings in any of these apartments so far. Additionally, where is the hospital?

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